Power of Ten

On Power of Ten I talk to guests from a broad range of disciplines about the intersection of design, technology, psychology, organisations, culture and society. We explore how design operates at many levels and in many forms, from thoughtful detail through organisational transformation to the changes in society and the world. It’s based on the thinking across different levels of ‘zoom’, inspired by the famous Ray and Charles Eames film, Powers of Ten.


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June 21, 2022

Seb Chan - Looking Backwards to the Future

My guest today in this episode is Seb Chan, Chief Experience Officer at ACMI - the Australian Centre for the Moving Image in Melbourne - championing human centred design approaches across the museum. Prior to ACMI, Seb led the digital renewal and transformation of the Cooper Hewitt Smithsonian Design Museum in New York (2011–15) and the Powerhouse Museum’s pioneering work in open access, mass collaboration and digital experience during the 2000s. He’s also Adjunct Professor, School of Media and Communications, in the College of Design and Social Context at RMIT.

In this episode we talk about Seb’s work, but also some of …

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May 6, 2022

Thejus Chakravarthy – Make Work Suck Less

My guest in this episode is Thejus Chakravarthy, an operational consultant that focuses on people, process, and technology, in that order. Currently, he says he has his hands full as the full-time COO of one company and a C-suite consultant for another. His primary focus is on how we can make work suck less. To that end, he spent 15 years designing instructional systems, the last 5 years expanding into operational systems, and wrote Brushfire and The Flywheel and The Lever.

In this episode we talk about why operations is the place to make the structural changes in organisations to make work suck less and why systems thinking is the …

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April 5, 2022

Teresa Torres – Continuous Discovery Habits

My guest in this episode is Teresa Torres, an internationally acclaimed author, speaker, and coach. She teaches a structured and sustainable approach to continuous discovery that helps product teams infuse their daily product decisions with customer input. She’s coached hundreds of teams at companies of all sizes, from early-stage start-ups to global enterprises, in a variety of industries. She has taught over 7,000 product people discovery skills through the Product Talk Academy. She’s the author of the book Continuous Discovery Habits and blogs at ProductTalk.org.

In this episode we talk about continuous discovery habits, why …

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February 28, 2022

Jorge Arango – Information Gardens

My guest in this episode is Jorge Arango, a consultant, author, speaker, and educator and host of The Informed Life, a podcast that explores how people organize information to get things done on which I was a guest.

Jorge is the co-author of the famous “polar bear book”, Information Architecture: For the Web and Beyond, that he wrote with Louis Rosenfeld, Peter Morville. More recently he published Living in Information: Responsible Design for Digital Places.

We talked about organising information, personal knowledge management systems and why gardens are the best metaphor for working with complexity.



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January 24, 2022

Tutti Taygerly - Make Space to Lead

My guest this week is Tutti Taygerly, returning to the show for a second time. Tutti is an executive leadership coach and professional speaker. She supports CEOs and tech leaders to embrace their unique leadership style to achieve professional impact. She works closely with women, people of color, and immigrants and has a particular love for “difficult” people. Previously she was a design leader at design firms, startups, and large companies including Disney and Facebook. She has written for Business Insider and Fast Company and in this episode she talks about her new book Make Space to Lead that shows high achievers how …

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November 23, 2021

Nir Hindi - The Art Mindset for Business

My guest today is Nir Hindi, founder of The Artian – a transdisciplinary training company committed to nurturing an artistic mindset in the business environment – and host of the Artian podcast. Nir works with a wide range of organisations and has gained an equally large number of accolades, including being chosen as one of the 100 experts of Cotec, an organization for promoting innovation in Spain, chaired by no less than Felipe VI, the Spanish King.

Nir says he has for years believed in the power of art to drive originality and novelty in business but was searching for the how. Until he discovered the way artists think, work, and …

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October 15, 2021

Donna Spencer - Presenting Design Work

My guest in this episode is Donna Spencer, an independent design consultant with 20-plus years of experience across the entire design spectrum – from strategy to delivery and everything in between. And, she says, she loves all of it.

Donna is recognised internationally as a leading UX practitioner, is a regular conference speaker and has written five books, including A Practical Guide To Information Architecture, Card Sorting and Presenting Design Work. Many listeners will know her for co-creating the UX Australia conference, which she ran for nine years.

Here Donna speaks about her experience, her books, the need to present design …

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